| Q & A - including Rollover |
December 8 , 2004
The discussion tonight will be QnA.
16:38 @Ensign_H: What would you like help with?
16:40 mmaker: what is the best way to rollover if I am using ib?
16:42 @Ensign_H: mmaker, if you used ES Z4 as an example on your SetUp | Manager, you can edit the Z4 to be H5 when you want to follow the new symbol.
16:43 @Ensign_H: you will have to change the symbol on the charts in workspaces as well, and resave workspace
16:43 mmaker: ok - tks
16:45 rickr: ib/ew data ... I have had prog about 1 mo now .... I have max bars on most charts set at 2500 ..... when I change from one workspace to another the load is getting slower and slower ..... if I have 4 charts in a workspace with 2500 bars each .... why does it refresh 57K+ bars ?
16:45 @Ensign_H: click menu SetUP | Manager..... this form controls the auto refresh request..... and the selections can be changed to Disabled. Then when you open a chart no refresh request will be made.... the charts will still be current using the data you collected while on-line. If you see a chart that has a gap because you were off-line, you can still manually ask for a refresh by right mouse click and use the Refresh pop-up menu.
16:48 @Ensign_H: rickr, click menu Setup | Manager and tell me the History and Intra-day frame selections

16:49 @Ensign_H: what were your settings before changing them to Disabled?
16:49 rickr: 6 mo & 7 days
16:50 @Ensign_H: the 7 days is why you were getting such a big refresh
16:50 @Ensign_H: I recommend Today or Disabled..... (Setting it to today will allow your minute charts to update automatically when you reopen your workspace during day if you get disconnected or have to reboot.)
16:51 NewbieMG: Howard, can you give more details new symbols after contract expired? Do I manually change in the Manager 'Z4' to 'H5'? Will the templates and workspaces work for the new contact?
16:51 @Ensign_H: yes you can manually change the Z4 to H5 on the Setup Manager list. You can change symbols on your workspaces too and resave them.
16:53 NewbieMG: How do I change symbols on workspaces? I was creating the same type of workspace again and again for different contracts... Is there a workspace "template", create once and apply to all? I will need daily, 60 min, 15min and 3 min data in the same screen
16:56 @Ensign_H: newbie, you can make use of the Symbol Grouping feature.... in the lower right corner of the chart can be 2 color boxes, the left one is for a symbol group. Make all the chart in the same non-black color group, and then do a CTRL-S to change the symbol for one of the charts and all charts will change to the new symbol and keep the same time frame. Then you could resave the workspace using a new name for the workspace.
16:51 schnzr: H, I'm just reviewing Ensign right now with hopes of switching soon. is the workspace within a defined frame or each of the windows (charts, quotesheets, etc.) free-floating
16:52 @Ensign_H: templates are not related to a particular month and will work with the new symbol. schnzr, 'workspace' is our vocabulary for an arrangement of windows on the screen. The workspace file will contain the information needed to restore the display, such as which chart symbol, window size, and how each chart is dressed for studies and draw tools.
16:54 schnzr: so, can these windows be placed anywhere on the screen (even mixed with other non-ensign apps) or are they contained within a frame or boundary?
16:54 @Ensign_H: the windows in a workspace are free floating inside of the main Ensign form.... the children cannot leave the size of the Ensign frame.
16:55 schnzr: following then, if I have multiple monitors, I need to "stretch" the Ensign form to expand across the monitors I desire?
16:57 @Ensign_H: correct, schnzr, you need to have Ensign stretched to cover the multiple monitors.
16:58 saxby: re color bars: trends, major trends, minor trends. Are these proprietary?
16:59 @Ensign_H: saxby, yes and no.... the minor and major trends have this theory. The color bars from a swing low to a swing high, etc. The logic for picking a swing low is a low bar whose 2 left side neighbors and 2 right side neighbors are higher. This would qualify for a minor swing low. The opposite for a minor swing high. The major requires 4 leftside and 4 right side neighbors to be higher. The difference between minor and major is 2 versus 4 neighbors. So the minor and major trends will not pick a swing high or low until a bit AFTER THE FACT.
17:01 @Ensign_H: the current trend will not be colored until a new swing high or low is found. Occasionally the sideways action is such that the current trend continues instead of reverses in which case the current coloring can continue.
17:02 @Ensign_H: the Trends is logic bar by bar looking at current bar to its left side neighbor. This color bar tool does not have any lag because there is not right side comparison. If there is a higher high and color is Up, then the trend continues. If there is a lower low and color is Down, then the downtrend continues.
17:03 @Ensign_H: have a bit more logic for deciding what to do for outside range and inside range bars. Typically the inside range bar is a continuation of the current trend.
17:03 saxby: color is determined by ?
17:04 @Ensign_H: color is picked by you. On a chart, press CTRL-P keys to see chart property form. There are 4 color boxes for the Bars labeled Normal, Bullish, Bearish, Volume.... these are colors used by the color bar studies.
17:05 Dennis: I'm trying to change my Ensign software that uses IB feed to the new roll over symbols. Can I use ES #F for my charts? and is there a gobal way to change the charts or do I have to go into each one individually and change it???
17:06 @Ensign_H: yes Dennis you can us #F instead of a specific month, then the #F will auto resolve to a month based on the SetUp | Symbol Properties roll-out schedule. Are all charts the same root symbol dennis?
17:07 Dennis: ES , YM and NQ
17:08 @Ensign_H: probably easiest to change charts one at a time. Here is one thing you can do dennis.
17:08 @Ensign_H: close workspace. Click on workspace button to show panel and select the workspace name. See if the Show Script button is displayed and click it if it is. IN the script you could manually edit the symbol name for each chart to change the Z4 to #F and then save the changed file.
17:09 Dennis: Do or can I use #F for the charts so I wont have to change them again?
17:10 @Ensign_H: correct dennis, once you change to #F you wont have to roll them again. They can auto resolve to the next month based on the Symbol Properties roll-out schedule with Roll Day being 3rd Fri - 8 that will be Dec 9th for ES and YM as shown in the image just posted. So today is last day of Z4 and tomorrow will be first day of H5 for the chart.
17:06 trader: I don't believe chart is right for YM
17:06 @Ensign_H: Please check for YM that the roll date is 3rd Friday-8 instead of 1st. Many have 1st selected, and did not expect to follow H5 on December 1st.
17:07 trader: changed to Friday -8 for indexes

17:10 trader: is that what you were referring to Howard? Minute charts seem ok just tick charts
17:12 @Ensign_H: so what is the problem trader?
17:12 trader: 1 sec will post charts see the dates at the bottom missing data

17:14 trader: can you see what I was referring to Howard?
17:14 @Ensign_H: yes, trader, and are you IB feed?
17:14 trader: yes
17:15 @Ensign_H: the refresh for IB will be Today or 100.000 ticks and that is why it will not refresh back to Nov. So the bars you have then are what you collected then. The 100,000 tick refresh would be 70 bars worth, which is about what you have before you miss data.
17:16 trader: yes last two days seem ok - refresh won't help?
17:16 @Ensign_H: no, and it might even be worse to refresh 100.000 tomorrow because that would be 100,000 H5 ticks and not 100,000 Z4 ticks and H5 would have traded thinner during the days you have now with Z4.
17:17 trader: so no way to correct that? yes that's why chose the continuous contract
17:18 @Ensign_H: there is NO continuation symbol on IB. There is the intervention in Ensign of #F resolving to a specific month based on a rollout schedule
17:18 trader: so what do I do then? seems ok for es and nq
17:18 @Ensign_H: right now it RESOLVES to be Z4 symbol for which we have a refresh. Tomorrow it will RESOLVE to be H5 symbol for which we have a refresh. There is no refresh of a continuation symbol on IB like there is on esignal. You all need to understand that point. It is not continuation data. It is data for a specific month. We just permit you to use #F on IB so you can let Ensign resolve the month for you.
17:20 @Ensign_H: the chart can contain whatever data it collected at the time. The chart can be a mix of Z4 and H5 and thus look like a continuation chart.
17:21 @Ensign_H: the IB refresh will NOT BE a mix of data. If you ask for 7 days of IB data for ES #F today, it will return Z4 data set. If you ask for the 7 day refresh tomorrow when ES #F resolves to the H5 symbol you will get 7 days of H5 data.
17:22 @Ensign_H: it WILL NOT BE 1 DAY OF H5 AND 4 DAYS OF Z4. the H5 data would overwrite the data that was Z4 if the bars have the same time stamps.
17:22 @Buffy2: and since it only gets H5 better to do only one day refresh right?
@Ensign_H: yea, buffy understands correctly....
17:23 trader: so is it still safe to trade them?
17:24 @Ensign_H: safe to trade what? Z4 or H5 or having data in chart a mix of the two? You decide what you want to do.
17:24 trader: to use #f for ib data ?
17:24 @Buffy2: yes trader but only request one day refresh tomorrow, two days the next day, etc until you are past the max refresh days to avoid overwriting the prior contract.
17:25 trader: ok thanks Howard buffy;-)
17:24 Dennis: I see that Ensign sw contains rollover information for my symbols - will Ensigh software automatically change my charts to the correct symbol on roll over day???
17:24 @Ensign_H: Dennis if you used the #F symbol, that symbol will resolve from Z4 to H5 tomorrow automatically.
17:25 @Ensign_H: if your chart is ES Z4 then it will still be ES Z4 tomorrow and you will have to manually change the symbol to ES Z5.
17:24 NewbieMG: Is there any reason 8th is the rollover day?
17:25 @Ensign_H: newbie, the roll date is the 9th, not the 8th, and it is all be cause the data vendor eSignal has a #F continuation symbol and they picked the roll date for ES to be 8 days before the 3rd friday.
17:26 rickr: roll date for zb ?
17:26 @Ensign_H: we all you are trying to be compliant with each other, some use esignal, some use IB, some use DTN feeds.
17:27 @Ensign_H: any suggestions for the ZB roll date????
7:28 @Ensign_H: by default our table used the 1st of the month, but when would ZB #F on esignal roll??? I do not know, but esignal web site for continuation subject would be a good place to look for an answer.
17:28 NewbieMG: will anyone start trading H5 contract tomorrow? The volume is still quite low comparing to Z4
17:29 @Ensign_H: newbie, volume may be low today, but I assure you tomorrow it will surpass Z4
17:25 virt: Howard...how do you draw a horizontal line that extends to infinity?
17:29 @Ensign_H: virt, on the draw line is an Extend Multiplier, have it be a big number. Then the line will extend that many units of length, where a unit is the distance between your two construction points. The line can be forced to be horizontal when it is being drawn by holding down a Shift key when you click elsewhere on the chart to deselect the line.
17:30 virt: thanks
17:32 @Buffy2: What is the max extend multiplier for a line please
17:35 @Ensign_H: buffy, extend multipliers higher than 40 can be entered so I think the new limit is 99
17:35 @Ensign_H: using a smaller number of the resulting line fails to draw, which is probably a symptom of the virtual coordinates being outside of the range your video driver supports.
17:18 schnzr: I am currently using quote.com (QCharts) and would like to continue using it to power Ensign. are there any known issues with the quote.com feed and Ensign together?
7:31 @Ensign_H: schnzr, Ensign and quote.com work well together, about the only thing we hear about is a lack of ability to pick the server you connect to. We will show you on the Setup | Connection form which server you connected to, but we have no control over that.
17:32 er2: Howard, back in June issue of your news letter, there is a gentleman name Bruce G who wrote an article on linear regression slope study for the newsletter, he also sells setup for his LRS, I was wondering is that a valid thing and if you received any complaints about his business, can you comment?
17:33 @Ensign_H: er2, when the article was published, I did not know it was a symbol he was selling, so I apologize for that, and since we have had complaints about the system and his practices, we have removed contact information from the article.
17:34 @Ensign_H: the other merits of the article about looking into Aaroon indicator are worthwhile and so the article is still on the website, minus the contact info.
17:34 er2: could you share the nature of the complains without invading the privacy of the parties? I was in the process of buying the setup from him, and thought I check with you first
17:35 @Ensign_H: er2, I advise against the purchase. The complaints are disappointment in the materials provided, the depth of the research, the documentation, and lack of after sale availability for support or refund.
17:39 er2: thanks Howard, thanks very much for the info
17:37 schnzr: I'm also interested in ESPL scripting. is there a library of (free) public scripts that I could peruse or a list of programmers available to contact?
17:38 @Ensign_H: schnzr, have lots of ESPL info, examples, and documentation on the ESPL page of our web site. Paul Levin is a good programmer and we have had satisfaction expressed with the work done by another who paul recommended.
17:38 schnzr: yes, saw that. was wondering if there was an expanded list or a forum to discuss
17:39 @Ensign_H: some tried to do a forum in the past, and then folded for lack of critical mass or someone to mentor/monitor the forum.
17:39 PhiTrader: Is there a way to stop text in echat jumping to current entry so that one can read past postings?
17:40 @Ensign_H: yes, phitrader, have the Scroll Transcript on the pop-up menu unchecked, and then the key is to click on the transcript text area. This changes a focus so it will not jump back as you use the slider bar to reposition it. The click in the transcript text area seems to be key to keep it from scrolling.
17:41 PhiTrader: Will try it....TY
17:44 @Buffy2: click in space between last line and bottom of chat window is what works best for many
17:13 prakso: How can it be that on 6E#F I get a quote of 1.3345 and on 6E Z4 I get 1.3335??
17:13 @Ensign_H: prakso, go look at the Symbol Property for 6E and see what the roll day schedule is. Apparently you resolve to a different month than Z4 right now.
17:15 prakso: its 3rd Friday-8
17:50 @Ensign_H: ok, what is your 6E #F price now and tell me which data feed you use
17:52 prakso: using e-signal and the quote is now 1.3345 with #F and 1.3335 with Z4
17:52 @Ensign_H: ok, 6E #F roll is controlled by eSignal and not by Ensign, so the roll schedule on symbol properties has no bearing on this issue. The 1.3345 is the H5 price, so that just tells me that eSignal has already rolled to the H5 contract for their 6E #F continuation symbol. Go look at their web site for the continuation subject and they will show the roll date they have elected to use for 6E and other symbols. It is not an Ensign issue. It is just an esignal realization of what they are doing.
17:54 @Ensign_H: if you want to trade Z4 still, then chart the 6E Z4 symbol
17:55 prakso: ok thank you Howard
17:57 NewbieMG: Will Ensign still provide Z4 data after the roll over?
17:58 @Ensign_H: are you using IB feed?
17:58 NewbieMG: right IB + ensign
17:58 @Ensign_H: the IB refresh is data we buy for you from DTN Market Access and we have observed that data for the 2004. Expired contracts is still available now, many months after expiration.
17:59 @Ensign_H: yes, Z4 will be available which it is not yet expired, and we expect it to continue to be available for many months yet to come. We cannot refresh 2003 contracts, but we can refresh still H4 and M4 and U4 contracts.
18:00 NewbieMG: ok, that's good
18:00 @Ensign_H: yes, I agree it is good
18:00 @Ensign_H: welcome.
17:46 @Ensign_H: bye.... have a good week... and best of trading to all of you.
17:47 er2: thanks Howard