GOINGLITE NQ/ES PALS CHAT ROOM 1/08/03
drwar:
I was attempting to
figure out your rules , because chart looks great
Goinglite:
very simular to
jimmer's rules
ranny3:
yes, your charts
are great....also clear and useful for study....thx again going.
Goinglite:
hope it helps
eminiwannabe:
going, do you just
look for a couple of 2 pts a day like rick?
drwar:
The only thing I
have been able to nail down on jimmers rules is that he is only taking trades at
BB's which gives excellent location and therefore very forgiving
ranny3:
i still don't know
how you get that mobius ribbon effect tho
Goinglite:
yep, exactly
eminiwannabe:
yep to m?e
Goinglite:
lol
Goinglite:
it makes the stoch
stand out
Goinglite:
visual, that's all
drwar:
You have a very
nice simple chart, which is easy to read without clutter.
Goinglite:
yep, clutter causes
too much thinking
Goinglite:
too much thinking
will cost you money
drwar:
How many tf's are
you looking at
Goinglite:
floor traders only
look at "1" indicator
Goinglite:
just the 210 and
133, mostly
Lizaaaa:
sound check
Goinglite:
sometimes the 55
tick
Goinglite:
and 550
Goinglite:
but I try to keep
the clutter down
Goinglite:
the 210 is clear
enough for me
drwar:
Thats what I am
attempting to do , But it not easy. I know TOO much and it gets in the way.
Goinglite:
I've looked at
100's of charts with just the 210 tick charts
Goinglite:
the winner
percentage off of those charts are "UNBELIEVABLE"
Goinglite:
Too many charts
will cause "BRAIN CLOUD" :)
nell1234:
going , u using 2pt
stop and 2pt target ?
drwar:
LOL
Goinglite:
2pt stop
HangTen_:
Going - are the
bars supposed to be colored by the long term stoch? your new template doesn't
seem to do this???
Goinglite:
yes
Goinglite:
the slow K
nell1234:
and target ?
HangTen_:
that's what i
thought, not working on my chart - i'll fiddle with it
Goinglite:
the take out of a
bar is a good target to get out
Goinglite:
depends
Goinglite:
but 2.0 points is a
good start, when starting out
drwar:
What is your entry
trigger or do you just use limit orders at the BB's
Goinglite:
Market orders, only
nell1234:
i was just
wondering what u are using
nell1234:
i use the band
first target
Goinglite:
you can do that
Goinglite:
also
Goinglite:
if I can get 2
points a trade....................... I'm happy
Goinglite:
2points X 30
trades...............................
nell1234:
no for me 2pts X 30
contracts
Goinglite:
LOL
ranny3:
you don't seem to
stop and reverse...but do you sometimes?
nell1234:
lol
Goinglite:
I'm too laid back
for a lot of SAR
eminiwannabe:
going, how many cts
per trade
Goinglite:
I like to do
anywhere from 2 to 10
Goinglite:
depends on the
setup
eminiwannabe:
you really do up to
30 trades a day?
Goinglite:
nope
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eminiwannabe:
or you really
looking for a couple of good ones like rick c?
Goinglite:
But I'm working on
it :)
Goinglite:
My style is far too
aggressive to be like Rick C
nell1234:
i think just
trading the mof's and slings , not adding psycology it is VERY hard to have a
losing day
eminiwannabe:
well, if you do a
10 st for 2 pts, you just need one trade a day. lol
eminiwannabe:
ct
Goinglite:
EXACTLY
Goinglite:
good point nelt1234
HangTen_:
sorry Going, very
odd - your new template on ensign is not coloring the bars
nell1234:
i have made money
with them in a 6 pt range
drwar:
Goinglite, Thanks -
I will do some playback with your template and see how it works for me.
Goinglite:
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Goinglite:
should color the
bars
HangTen_:
anyone else have
same problem?
HangTen_:
the stoch is set up
to color, have no idea why it won't work
Goinglite:
not sure on that
problem
HangTen_:
i just figured part
of it out - must be a setting on the candles for me - when i change it to just
bars it colors - weird?
Goinglite:
you may need Howard
on that one
eminiwannabe:
going? what was
rick's b setting?
eminiwannabe:
bb
nell1234:
8,1.8
HangTen_:
i was modifying
another chart - probably changed a setting
Goinglite:
rick's is 8.
1.8
Goinglite:
8, 1.8 close
ranny3:
where is this
template posted going?
Goinglite:
for rick c
Goinglite:
you can get off of
ensign under internet services, template
Goinglite:
or the ensign
Goinglite:
homepage
hanksterr:
mine doesnt work
either hangten
HangTen_:
strange - i changed
it from candles to bars and it colors fine ????
LAM22:
make under color
bars normal bars
ranny3:
thx
going...............got it
Goinglite:
ok
HangTen_:
Hey LAM - that's it
- thx very much!
LAM22:
no problem
hanksterr:
thx lam
hark33:
I have a problem
and would like some help, if possible. Since installing the Jan 8 ver of Ensign,
I cannot get a cross hair on my charts. Anyone have an answer?
viking55:
Yes, hark, double
click in the chart, then under "big cross" I think, change the color
from black to something lighter, then it'll show up
ahoodlum:
goinglite...what
day did you do playback on today?
Goinglite:
one was 11/22
Goinglite:
the other
one...................... I forgot :)
hark33:
Sorry viking,
Didn't works. Thanks, though.
eminiwannabe:
right click on the
chart and cross hair is near bottom of list
ahoodlum:
heh...I'd be
interested in seeing you post ummm..instructions or tips regarding your
system...
ahoodlum:
I have heard you
talk about it but I haven't been around enough for the 'whole story;
hark33:
I have that
checked, but no dice, emini.
Goinglite:
I will be working
on that, but It's really just Jimmer's system
Goinglite:
with a few of my
nuances
Goinglite:
to fit my style
Goinglite:
If you read
Jimmer's stuff, it will help
ahoodlum:
what timeframes do
you look at?
eminiwannabe:
anybody tried the
timer yet? i clicked the option but don't seeit
Goinglite:
210 tick, 55 tick,
and 133 tick
ahoodlum:
yeah I've been
practicing with buffys 2xBline...so kinda similar..but I'm still learning
Goinglite:
I'm a BIG FAN of
Jimmer :)
zeker_2:
yes emini, it works
eminiwannabe:
hmmm
eminiwannabe:
hark33
zeker_2:
should be right at
the end of the lline
eminiwannabe:
go to setup, then
charts, and look at the color you have for big cross in default
eminiwannabe:
zeker, doesn't show
ahoodlum:
not seeing it here
either zeker
ahoodlum:
and emini
hark33:
Wi9te, and my
charts are gray.
hark33:
while, lol.
eminiwannabe:
try a different
color
eminiwannabe:
maybe that will
owrk
zeker_2:
after you download
zeker_2:
did you install
zeker_2:
make sure timer is
checked
zeker_2:
it should be righ
up there with a %
eminiwannabe:
timer is checked
zeker_2:
hmmm, I guess one
for howard
eminiwannabe:
when i check and
uncheck nothing changes
zeker_2:
if everything else
is showing up , it should too
hark33:
Went red, still no
luck.
hark33:
Which timer?
eminiwannabe:
just download and
reinstall
hark33:
k, emini
ahoodlum:
checked where emini/zeker?
eminiwannabe:
ok if ound out why
eminiwannabe:
i found
eminiwannabe:
there are two
timers to check in list
eminiwannabe:
timer and timer
alert
eminiwannabe:
i was checking
timer alert without checking timer
ahoodlum:
ahh found it ;)
eminiwannabe:
so what does timer
alert do?
zeker_2:
ahhh
zeker_2:
not sure
zeker_2:
maybe it gives an
alert at a certain percentage
hark33:
Reinstall got it!
Mini thanks,emini!
eminiwannabe:
:)
HangTen_:
where do you select
timer?
eminiwannabe:
right click on the
bar up top where your prices are
zeker_2:
Optional alerts are available
which shows a clock by the Timer value when the intra-day chart is in the final
minute, the daily chart is in the final 15 minutes, and the constant tick bar is
above 80% complete
eminiwannabe:
then there is timer
and timer alert
HangTen_:
got it thx emini
ingos_1:
awfully quiet in
here
ranny3:
my suggestion for
musical background tonight: wrek.org/wreknet.shtml.........from Atlanta
ranny3:
hi ingos
ingos_1:
hi ranny
Goinglite:
Hey ingos
ingos_1:
music sounds good
ingos_1:
hey goinglite
ranny3:
i found the Mobius
Band on internet.........on www.wrek.org
ingos_1:
optical cable cut
today between sedona and phoenix, do was down all day
Quartz_111:
isnt Howards email
just howard@ensignsoftware.com ?
ingos_1:
no, ensign
ranny3:
thought you were
satellite ingos
Quartz_111:
if anyone happens
to know ... it gets rejected and sent back with user unknown
ingos_1:
satellite feed for
charts
ingos_1:
dial up net
ranny3:
oh
ingos_1:
damn thing
ingos_1:
always down
Goinglite:
Just finished
posting the 210 tick charts for today's action
ingos_1:
210 will for sure
give lots of action
eminiwannabe:
where going?
Goinglite:
http://www.dacharts.com/~charts/2003-01-08/
Goinglite:
dacharts
Quartz_111:
ahh txs ingos
Goinglite:
2003-01-08
eminiwannabe:
got it
ingos_1:
k quartz
Goinglite:
ok
lionesss:
first time I saw
your charts was last nite going and I like them very much
Goinglite:
Thanks lionesss
Goinglite:
I owe it all to
Buffy, Jimmer, and Ingos
lionesss:
plan to practice
with them in playback this weekend
Goinglite:
ok
lionesss:
btw I agree cci is
best on the 2,3,5 min charts
Quartz_111:
gosh it got up to
55 degrees here today ... and this is Minneapolis,,, in the middle of winter
Quartz_111:
very very unusual
Goinglite:
Yep
hark33:
Going lite, found
the templae interesting, but no cci, etc?
Goinglite:
template is for
tick charts
Goinglite:
so, no need for cci
Goinglite:
unless, you are
trading off of a 2,3, or 5 min chart
hark33:
What multiplesdo
you use?
ahoodlum:
same here in
Chicago quartz...
ahoodlum:
50
Goinglite:
lioness, agreed
Goinglite:
today was typical
for this system on the 210 tick, I could only find 1 loser
hark33:
Wow!
lionesss:
I like to take less
trades have you tried it on 343 or 377 tick?
ahoodlum:
impressive
goinglight...
Goinglite:
1 loser out of 37
trades
Lock_N_Load_1:
goinglite - do you
have this written up anywhere? Thanks.
lionesss:
It does seem very
clear to me on the 210
Goinglite:
Read Jimmer's stuff
Lock_N_Load_1:
k
Goinglite:
Jimmer has a very
fine system that "clearly speaks" me
Goinglite:
to me
HangTen_:
problem is, looks
much easier after the fact
Goinglite:
LOL
Goinglite:
well, band touches
don't lie
lionesss:
Lock look last 2
days on dacharts going lite's post
Lock_N_Load_1:
ok
eminiwannabe:
but, there are some
fake outs trading real time
eminiwannabe:
i see failed mofs
all the time
eminiwannabe:
real time
eminiwannabe:
but, having said
that, the ones you marked are there
eminiwannabe:
and would have been
winners
Goinglite:
ok
lionesss:
I didn't trade it
today but I watched it and it different seem very different in real time I put
lines where I would short and long and compared them to going's and they
"spoke" to me
Lock_N_Load_1:
don't some of the
losers disappear when looking back at the end of day?
lionesss:
you can play the
mof, diverg combined with bb lines
Goinglite:
I have fake out
phobia
lionesss:
I need to brush up
on Adx
Goinglite:
so I do MOFs right
off of the bands
Goinglite:
stopps a lot of
fake outs
Goinglite:
well only on
indicators
HangTen_:
the prob i have
with my diverg trades is you really don't have diverg until the stoch turns away
and forms a peak or trough- must have faith to enter at the bands before stoch
turns
Goinglite:
but band touches ,
don't lie
Goinglite:
and indicator and
hook and unhook before the bar prints,
Goinglite:
so you won't see
the fakeouts
Goinglite:
but band touches
really don't lie
Goinglite:
I need to work on
my typing :)
Goinglite:
let me try that
again
Goinglite:
indicators can hook
and unhook before the bar prints, hiding a lot of fakeouts
Goinglite:
but band touches
are pretty clear
Lock_N_Load_1:
that was my point
about them disappearing
Goinglite:
LOL
Goinglite:
I know from trading
the CCI :)
Goinglite:
you can get a cci
hook, trendline break combo, and when the market pulls back, the cci will
pullback, hiding the fakeout :)
Goinglite:
But today had 36
outright winners
Goinglite:
that's something to
think about :)
Lock_N_Load_1:
on 210
Goinglite:
yep
Goinglite:
Price will always
leave it's mark
Goinglite:
Price doesn't lie
Goinglite:
and when price
touches a bollenger band, it's clear
Goinglite:
no way to hide that
hark33:
You have many
different BBs.
HangTen_:
going - i took an
MOF sell at 11:22 today for a loss - you didn't see the entry on your chart
until 11:27 - 2pts higher - anything wrong with that trade at 11:22?
cluetrain:
but the bands DO
lie in exactly the same way any oscillator hook will
ingos_1:
not if you
understand them clue
Goinglite:
30 wma was sloped
upward
bill772:
ingos, do you
have a trading room on MIRC?
cluetrain:
i understand price
moves them
ingos_1:
no trading rooms
RJ
-: clue
you need to go to band school
Goinglite:
I do agree that
there are failed MOF's
ingos_1:
lol
Goinglite:
But they can be
clearly seen
cluetrain:
indeed
cluetrain:
....and failed
"band touches"
bill772:
Ok, who is
teaching BBand school?
cluetrain:
yeah...where do i
sign up?
ingos_1:
I have been for
some time now, lol
RJ
-: ingos
has had many classes right here
HangTen_:
10:39 and 10:46
sloped up also and you marked sells there?
cluetrain:
i gotta hang around
more
bill772:
me too
bill772:
i miss this
roon
RJ
-: I
went to the school of hard knocks
bill772:
room
Goinglite:
that's my point,
failed BB touches are clearly seen