Railroad and Arc Fib Patterns
Chat given by "google_2" in the PalTalk chatroom, "E-Mini Traders Anonymous," on January 21, 2002

(12:01 PM) google_2: hi everyone

(12:01 PM) google_2: I'll be starting the session now

(12:01 PM) ann_87: ok google

(12:01 PM) gravestonedoggie: please give google the floor

(12:02 PM) google_2: today's we'll be going over 2 patterns that provide reversal entries

(12:02 PM) google_2: last time we went over 2 patterns

(12:02 PM) google_2: 1 simple : 3 humps

(12:02 PM) google_2: 1 advanced : gartley

(12:03 PM) google_2: today we'll add to our arsenal 2 very reliable intraday patterns

(12:03 PM) google_2: the goal is to have few of those and constantly look for them

(12:04 PM) google_2: it helps to understand the intraday action while providing good setups

(12:04 PM) google_2: before I get into those patterns let me say that

(12:05 PM) google_2: the goal is to provide a different approach to trading by relying on pattern recognition and visualization

(12:05 PM) google_2: more than often the case we find that such patterns will compliment signals from systems like SMAX and vice versa

(12:06 PM) Skibumin32: SMAX?

(12:06 PM) google_2: if there's enough interest in this approach I'll coordinate with dave (b quick) to conduct some regular sessions

(12:06 PM) google_2: to show and train on those patterns

(12:07 PM) google_2: as I'm sure some of us rely on visualization in their trading

(12:07 PM) gravestonedoggie: yes

(12:07 PM) dave_b_quik: skibum, you'll find the smax system at www.dacharts.com/smax.php

(12:07 PM) tomsurf: googs, sounds good

(12:08 PM) google_2: today's patterns are aimed at capturing larger moves

(12:08 PM) google_2: I mainly use 5 min to look for them

(12:09 PM) google_2: as this timeframe provides less noise

(12:09 PM) google_2: 3 & 15 minute can make those patterns less visible

(12:09 PM) google_2: I'll be posting today's charts under

(12:10 PM) google_2: http://www.dacharts.com/charts/other_folders/google_2/patterns_Jan_21_2002

(12:11 PM) google_2: our first pattern is called "railroad"

(12:11 PM) google_2: funny name there lol

(12:11 PM) google_2: but whatever works for you

(12:11 PM) google_2: to help in looking for it

(12:11 PM) google_2: this pattern has some criteria

(12:11 PM) google_2: first off we're looking for

(12:11 PM) google_2: an end of day wave

(12:12 PM) google_2: google_railroad_1.jpg

(12:13 PM) google_2: naming convention for the charts is google then pattern name then sequence number

(12:15 PM) google_2: rather than posting the whole pattern

(12:15 PM) google_2: I thought of walking through it as it unfolds

(12:15 PM) google_2: the first thing we notice on this chart

(12:15 PM) google_2: is the last wave for the day

(12:16 PM) google_2: from 3pm

(12:16 PM) google_2: till close

(12:16 PM) google_2: everyone see that?

(12:16 PM) vink: y

(12:16 PM) Skibumin32: this the time for Institutional buying/selling?

(12:16 PM) pete77_1: y

(12:16 PM) Tom_B: k

(12:16 PM) google_2: ok

(12:16 PM) Skibumin32: y

(12:17 PM) google_2: second thing we're looking for is the open of the following day

(12:17 PM) google_2: google_railroad_2.jpg

(12:17 PM) google_2: we're looking for a gap

(12:17 PM) google_2: in the opposite direction of the wave on the previous day

(12:17 PM) google_2: marked 2

(12:18 PM) google_2: so now we gapped down

(12:18 PM) google_2: and we really don't know which way it's going to go

(12:18 PM) google_2: at least I don't

(12:18 PM) google_2: so either we fill gap

(12:18 PM) google_2: or we continue downwards

(12:18 PM) google_2: best thing of course is to wait

(12:18 PM) amer_68: Something unique about the last wave of the day?

(12:19 PM) google_2: google_railroad_3.jpg

(12:19 PM) google_2: amer yes

(12:19 PM) google_2: it's an orphan

(12:19 PM) amer_68: ?

(12:19 PM) google_2: remember waves work in 3s and 5s

(12:19 PM) amer_68: k

(12:20 PM) google_2: so if we have 1 wave then it has to be complemented or terminated somehow

(12:20 PM) google_2: so on the 3rd chart

(12:20 PM) google_2: you'll see that

(12:20 PM) google_2: I have no idea what's going to happen

(12:20 PM) google_2: other than the open didn't take out previous day's low

(12:21 PM) plevin: what is the indicator on the 3rd chart?

(12:21 PM) google_2: so my first instinct is to try to come up with some price objectives

(12:21 PM) google_2: this is a fib tool

(12:21 PM) google_2: in ensign

(12:21 PM) google_2: you can use bare lines

(12:21 PM) google_2: but I like this one

(12:21 PM) google_2: as it provides some speed lines as well

(12:21 PM) gravestonedoggie: sorry, when you say 'orphan' you mean it is followed a completed 3 or 5 waves?

(12:21 PM) gravestonedoggie: it followed, not it is

(12:22 PM) google_2: gsd, yes

(12:22 PM) gravestonedoggie: thnx

(12:22 PM) google_2: so I took the entire range of previous day

(12:22 PM) google_2: and just plotted a fib as shown

(12:22 PM) google_2: marked 3

(12:23 PM) google_2: google_railroad_4.jpg

(12:23 PM) google_2: I've also done the same thing with midday swing

(12:23 PM) google_2: and plotted another fib line

(12:23 PM) google_2: just trying to figure out possible objectives

(12:24 PM) google_2: fib lines might seem overwhelming here

(12:24 PM) google_2: but it'll all come together later on

(12:24 PM) google_2: you'll also notice

(12:24 PM) google_2: that I plotted 2 red lines

(12:24 PM) google_2: railroad tracks

(12:24 PM) google_2: price is parallel to previous day's last wave

(12:25 PM) google_2: no we have fibs in place

(12:25 PM) google_2: we're looking at a spot for reversal

(12:25 PM) google_2: or should I say "possible" reversal

(12:25 PM) google_2: google_railroad_5.jpg

(12:26 PM) google_2: I'm showing here different spots

(12:26 PM) google_2: marked 5

(12:26 PM) google_2: that coincide wtih fib levels

(12:26 PM) google_2: if you look at top of chart

(12:26 PM) google_2: it says possible targets

(12:26 PM) google_2: everyone following so far?

(12:26 PM) amer_68: y

(12:27 PM) plevin: y

(12:27 PM) Rose0001: y

(12:27 PM) gravestonedoggie: loud and clear

(12:27 PM) 1goods: y

(12:27 PM) pete77_1: ok

(12:27 PM) google_2: if we work our way from the outside

(12:27 PM) google_2: we have previous hod corresponds with 162% fib

(12:27 PM) google_2: open wiht 127%

(12:28 PM) google_2: corrective swing with 62%

(12:28 PM) google_2: & 70%

(12:28 PM) google_2: price is still climbing

(12:28 PM) google_2: and have no idea where it's going to stall

(12:28 PM) google_2: but this is a reversal pattern

(12:28 PM) amer_68: You've got two sets of fib lines?

(12:28 PM) google_2: so at some points it "should" reverse

(12:29 PM) google_2: correct

(12:29 PM) google_2: amer

(12:29 PM) elly_34: where is second fib anchored ?

(12:29 PM) google_2: marked 3 and 4

(12:29 PM) google_2: 3 from hod

(12:29 PM) google_2: 4 from midday

(12:29 PM) amer_68: see it

(12:30 PM) google_2: ok so far?

(12:30 PM) elly_34: both then to low of prev day?

(12:30 PM) amer_68: y

(12:30 PM) google_2: yes

(12:30 PM) elly_34: k

(12:30 PM) gravestonedoggie: with you

(12:30 PM) google_2: ok

(12:30 PM) QSuzy: you said corrective swing of 62% and 70%.....is it one or the other?

(12:30 PM) google_2: google_railroad_6.jpg

(12:31 PM) QSuzy: or just ballpark?

(12:31 PM) google_2: qsuzy

(12:31 PM) google_2: yes

(12:31 PM) google_2: not exact science

(12:31 PM) google_2: since this is the open

(12:31 PM) google_2: and many are jockeying for positions

(12:31 PM) google_2: on chart 6 you'll see where price stalled

(12:32 PM) google_2: this is going according to plan

(12:32 PM) google_2: railroad has been created

(12:32 PM) google_2: if you plot a trendline for today's wave

(12:32 PM) google_2: any breach of that

(12:32 PM) google_2: is a good entry

(12:33 PM) google_2: I'm aggressive

(12:33 PM) google_2: when it comes to that pattern

(12:33 PM) amer_68: For a short?

(12:33 PM) google_2: and I'll short it next to 70% or 127%

(12:33 PM) google_2: yes, this is a reversal entry pattern

(12:33 PM) amer_68: Nice!

(12:34 PM) google_2: have seen enough of them to be confident about the probabilities

(12:34 PM) google_2: nothing is 100%

(12:34 PM) google_2: but this one is up there

(12:34 PM) hanksterr: great chart

(12:34 PM) elly_34: is this a bearish gartley, from prev days close and then this projection?

(12:34 PM) google_2: elly great eye

(12:34 PM) gravestonedoggie: so you will short against the fib level, or by way of stop under the channel?

(12:34 PM) google_2: I'll get to gaps after I walk through patterns

(12:34 PM) TurnSig: Price crossed the TL on the 5th bar at a confluence of retracements. What kept you from shorting early?

(12:35 PM) google_2: I'l short against fib

(12:35 PM) gravestonedoggie: thnx

(12:35 PM) google_2: turn

(12:35 PM) google_2: I'll short earlir

(12:35 PM) google_2: ealier

(12:35 PM) google_2: earlier

(12:35 PM) google_2: uggg

(12:35 PM) google_2: lol

(12:35 PM) gravestonedoggie: hehe

(12:35 PM) google_2: but wanted to show what's happening in "simulated" real time :-)

(12:36 PM) gravestonedoggie: well done

(12:36 PM) timing 2: google fibb looking from haven must be happy with ya lol

(12:36 PM) elly_34: i'm not familiar with this tool, are the fans time lines? and which tool is this on ensign pls

(12:36 PM) google_2: I think it is better to showe a pattern as it unfolds

(12:36 PM) amer_68: BTW One of those gartleys is on the demo starting at 11:30 est

(12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: nice way to do it google

(12:37 PM) amer_68: I think

(12:37 PM) google_2: tool

(12:37 PM) google_2: is located on draw studies icon

(12:37 PM) google_2: 1st column on left

(12:37 PM) google_2: 3rd one

(12:37 PM) google_2: called fib retracements

(12:37 PM) google_2: you can use fib lines too

(12:37 PM) google_2: I just happen to like this one

(12:37 PM) google_2: whatever works

(12:37 PM) google_2: on other packages too

(12:38 PM) google_2: google_railroad_7.jpg

(12:38 PM) google_2: ok let's look at what happened

(12:38 PM) google_2: for the rest of the day

(12:38 PM) google_2: target hit marked 6

(12:38 PM) google_2: reversal is marked 7

(12:38 PM) win2001_1: sell

(12:39 PM) google_2: win2k you bet

(12:39 PM) google_2: lol

(12:39 PM) google_2: sell hard and with confidence

(12:39 PM) google_2: if you really take a close look at this particular setup

(12:39 PM) google_2: you'll notice that the opening move up

(12:40 PM) google_2: created the second wave

(12:40 PM) google_2: for the first one of the previous day

(12:40 PM) google_2: anyone following that?

(12:40 PM) amer_68: y

(12:40 PM) amer_68: The orphan

(12:40 PM) raz_62: lost me

(12:40 PM) plevin: you mean it is a 3 move retracement?

(12:40 PM) plevin: that gap being move 2

(12:40 PM) google_2: ok here's an easy way to visualize it

(12:40 PM) Rose0001: Google where can I get an introduction to waves?

(12:41 PM) Tom_B: a,b,c ?

(12:41 PM) google_2: omit (delete) first 6 bars for the day

(12:41 PM) google_2: right after the open

(12:41 PM) gravestonedoggie: gotcha

(12:41 PM) google_2: can you see it now?

(12:41 PM) scorp: from close down to fib line of next day?

(12:41 PM) hanksterr: y

(12:42 PM) google_2: yes

(12:42 PM) raz_62: y

(12:43 PM) dave_b_quik: is #7 a specific confirmation of the reversal?

(12:43 PM) google_2: google_railroad_final.jpg

(12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: there is a site in brach's discussion that is good rose

(12:43 PM) google_2: so what does the pattern look like without all that mess we created?

(12:43 PM) google_2: lol

(12:43 PM) tomsurf: Rose- Howard has a nice writeup at the Ensign site.

(12:43 PM) google_2: tracks are very visible on this chart

(12:44 PM) Rose0001: Thanks, Tom.

(12:44 PM) google_2: tracks are parallel

(12:44 PM) google_2: and provide good symmetry

(12:44 PM) elly_34: you were expecting this gartley because u saw the prev days low as completing a wave series?

(12:44 PM) google_2: here're other examples of railroad pattern

(12:44 PM) google_2: google_railroad_for_reversal_entries.jpg

(12:45 PM) google_2: elly

(12:45 PM) amer_68: Whole pattern could occur intraday?

(12:45 PM) google_2: I don't have an expectation

(12:45 PM) google_2: amer, no

(12:45 PM) google_2: railroads are opening patterns

(12:45 PM) amer_68: k

(12:47 PM) google_2: so everyone got the "railroad"?

(12:47 PM) elly_34: did you short before you were seeing a breakdown, just upon reaching that fib level?

(12:47 PM) tippet: very nice google :)

(12:47 PM) amer_68: yes, great!

(12:47 PM) Rose0001: Yes, Google. Beautiful presentation. Easy to follow.

(12:47 PM) shane o c: I signed up for ensign this am how long does it take to receive data

(12:48 PM) raz_62: yes even me

(12:48 PM) google_2: very good pattern, doesn't fail that often when materializes

(12:48 PM) TurnSig: Tx Google.

(12:48 PM) elly_34: did you see my ? google?

(12:48 PM) google_2: elly, no

(12:48 PM) google_2: let me scroll back

(12:48 PM) amer_68: What fibs most often on this pattern?

(12:49 PM) QSuzy: How often does the RRoad occur?

(12:49 PM) elly_34: about your entry

(12:49 PM) google_2: oh

(12:49 PM) google_2: I prefer entries @ 70, 127

(12:49 PM) google_2: 162

(12:49 PM) elly_34: u said aggressive, does that mean you are not necessarily waiting for a shorter term topping pattern?

(12:50 PM) google_2: dont' really know

(12:50 PM) google_2: but noticed railroads occur

(12:50 PM) google_2: during overall trend change

(12:50 PM) elly_34: nice

(12:50 PM) google_2: aggressive meaning

(12:50 PM) google_2: I won't wait too long before I enter

(12:50 PM) google_2: this one is was easier than others

(12:50 PM) Tom_B: Google those preferred entries are they generic or specific to this pattern ?

(12:50 PM) google_2: look at last charts

(12:51 PM) google_2: and you'll see that on the second chart the wait time was tooo long :-)

(12:51 PM) gravestonedoggie: goog, elly's quetion.. when you go to enter at fib level, do you tune down and still look to spot a specifc reversql pattern on a small timeframe, and what kind of pattern might that be?

(12:51 PM) google_2: the pattern on the right

(12:51 PM) google_2: tom

(12:51 PM) google_2: specific to pattern

(12:51 PM) Tom_B: k

(12:52 PM) google_2: gsd, yes I use 3 min for entries

(12:52 PM) google_2: and yes

(12:52 PM) google_2: I look for topping pattern

(12:52 PM) gravestonedoggie: k

(12:52 PM) google_2: but again I'm trading a pattern I've seen work out well

(12:52 PM) google_2: I mess up when I trade something I don't know lol

(12:53 PM) gravestonedoggie: thnx

(12:53 PM) google_2: ok

(12:53 PM) google_2: if everyone is ok with this one

(12:53 PM) laniermasters: What small tf topping pattern to you usually use?

(12:53 PM) google_2: let's move on to the second one

(12:53 PM) amer_68: y

(12:53 PM) google_2: the second one is the same as the first

(12:53 PM) google_2: I call it "leg & arc"

(12:53 PM) 1goods: google do you use 3 min..for entries...it that to keep risk small?

(12:53 PM) brandon_131: so you would not have shorted 1687, even though it was 62% and close previous swing high and also had an inside bar?

(12:53 PM) google_2: but abbreviated the name to arc

(12:54 PM) brandon_131: "close to"

(12:54 PM) google_2: goods, brandon, yes

(12:54 PM) google_2: I look at how price is reacting to a certain level

(12:54 PM) google_2: it just comes from watching

(12:54 PM) google_2: bars don't tell all

(12:55 PM) google_2: but times & sales along with price vibration indicate

(12:55 PM) google_2: what's happenening at a certain level

(12:55 PM) google_2: ok back to "arc"

(12:55 PM) Tom_B: u mean volitility at a price point ?

(12:55 PM) google_2: pattern pretty much same as first

(12:55 PM) google_2: it's a reversal pattern

(12:55 PM) google_2: aimed at capturing a good move

(12:55 PM) google_2: with defined risk

(12:56 PM) google_2: I've used the term "arc" before

(12:56 PM) google_2: to indicate

(12:56 PM) google_2: a fast move towards a target

(12:56 PM) google_2: we'll get to it in a second

(12:56 PM) google_2: the best setup I've come across for this pattern

(12:56 PM) google_2: is when the day starts with it

(12:56 PM) google_2: and reverses midday in reaction to it

(12:57 PM) google_2: but it also happens in other times of day

(12:57 PM) google_2: we'll get to that later

(12:57 PM) google_2: google_Arc_1.jpg

(12:57 PM) google_2: again

(12:57 PM) google_2: gap up

(12:57 PM) google_2: not a requirement by the way

(12:57 PM) google_2: it just happened to be the case on this chart

(12:58 PM) google_2: notice that most of the charts I'm using happened recently

(12:58 PM) google_2: the point is those patterns happen over and over again

(12:58 PM) google_2: so now we've missed this entire move down

(12:58 PM) google_2: and I have no idea what will happen next

(12:59 PM) google_2: at this point I'm slapping myself right and left

(12:59 PM) google_2: because I didn't short the open lol

(12:59 PM) amer_68: lol

(12:59 PM) google_2: and had no reason too

(12:59 PM) google_2: except greed

(12:59 PM) google_2: :-)

(12:59 PM) google_2: I'm also looking at previous day

(12:59 PM) google_2: and noticed that gap was in direction of last wave

(01:00 PM) google_2: which means I ain't getting my "railroad" :-(

(01:00 PM) google_2: no money to pay bills so far

(01:00 PM) amer_68: tear drops

(01:01 PM) google_2: more like "sobbing" lol

(01:01 PM) google_2: google_ARC_2.jpg

(01:01 PM) google_2: ah

(01:01 PM) google_2: something is happening here

(01:01 PM) google_2: finally :-)

(01:02 PM) google_2: we had 1 wave so far in the morning

(01:02 PM) google_2: and now we're having a second one

(01:02 PM) google_2: so google quickly looks for her fib pal

(01:02 PM) google_2: and plots a line

(01:02 PM) google_2: the goal is measure how hi is this corrective wave is going to go

(01:02 PM) google_2: so far we're still on the sidelines

(01:03 PM) google_2: and have no idea what's going to happen next

(01:03 PM) google_2: but now I saw a possible pause at 38%

(01:03 PM) google_2: and this gives me few options

(01:03 PM) google_2: the corrective wave is weak

(01:04 PM) google_2: there's another wave down following

(01:04 PM) google_2: but I don't know if it's a 123 or another leg down

(01:04 PM) google_2: being aggressive I can short against the 38% level

(01:04 PM) google_2: but let's just proceed with that pattern for now

(01:05 PM) google_2: google_ARC_3.jpg

(01:05 PM) gravestonedoggie: harmonic market

(01:05 PM) google_2: on this chart marked 3

(01:06 PM) google_2: we see that tons of money has been made on the short side

(01:06 PM) hanksterr: possible gartley

(01:06 PM) google_2: but

(01:06 PM) google_2: there's something happening

(01:06 PM) google_2: there's an arc

(01:06 PM) google_2: marked 3 on the chart

(01:06 PM) google_2: it's very important to visualize this

(01:06 PM) amer_68: got it

(01:06 PM) google_2: does look like an arc?

(01:07 PM) gravestonedoggie: y

(01:07 PM) Rose0001: yes

(01:07 PM) google_2: now I know we're due for a reversal of some sort

(01:07 PM) google_2: and now we have to determine where it would end

(01:07 PM) google_2: google_ARC_4.jpg

(01:07 PM) amer_68: First arc now not important?

(01:08 PM) google_2: does the first wave look like an arc?

(01:08 PM) raz_62: no

(01:08 PM) google_2: I don't see it like that

(01:08 PM) amer_68: k

(01:08 PM) google_2: arcs are the second or third legs

(01:09 PM) google_2: we have to calculate objective

(01:09 PM) google_2: previous day was trend day

(01:09 PM) google_2: plotted a fib from corrective wave

(01:09 PM) google_2: looked at reversal candles

(01:09 PM) google_2: so now we have

(01:10 PM) google_2: 4 things working in our favor

(01:10 PM) google_2: it's all about probabilities

(01:10 PM) google_2: price hit 162

(01:10 PM) google_2: reversal candle/bar visible on chart

(01:10 PM) google_2: on 3 min it's even looking better

(01:10 PM) gravestonedoggie: bar with long tail, you mean

(01:10 PM) google_2: pivot support from previous day

(01:11 PM) google_2: yes gsd

(01:11 PM) google_2: and an arc

(01:11 PM) gravestonedoggie: thnx

(01:11 PM) google_2: 4 things

(01:11 PM) google_2: now I'm getting excited and emotionally charged

(01:11 PM) google_2: :-)

(01:11 PM) gravestonedoggie: hehe

(01:12 PM) google_2: and here's where I enter

(01:12 PM) google_2: google_Arc_5.jpg

(01:12 PM) google_2: my risk is defined

(01:12 PM) google_2: I know where my stop is and max. number of points I'm willing to lose

(01:13 PM) google_2: now let's look at what happened

(01:13 PM) gravestonedoggie: better than sex and the city

(01:13 PM) google_2: google_Arc_6.jpg

(01:13 PM) gravestonedoggie: you risk to bottom of bar?

(01:14 PM) google_2: I enter close to bottom of bar

(01:14 PM) google_2: and probably 3 points below that

(01:14 PM) gravestonedoggie: k

(01:14 PM) google_2: and here you have the reversal for rest of day

(01:14 PM) gravestonedoggie: bottom of bar after reversal bar?

(01:14 PM) gravestonedoggie: sorry

(01:15 PM) hanksterr: very nice

(01:15 PM) google_2: gsd, sure

(01:15 PM) google_2: but I look at 3 min

(01:15 PM) google_2: which gives better entries

(01:15 PM) google_2: now let's look at the pattern on its own

(01:15 PM) gravestonedoggie: k

(01:16 PM) google_2: google_ARC_final.jpg

(01:16 PM) google_2: simply beautiful pattern

(01:16 PM) Rose0001: Thank you for sharing it.

(01:16 PM) Tom_B: applause

(01:16 PM) google_2: now

(01:16 PM) gravestonedoggie: nciely done

(01:16 PM) Buffy_04364: standing ovation

(01:17 PM) google_2: let's take a look

(01:17 PM) plevin: thank you

(01:17 PM) amer_68: Clap clap clap

(01:17 PM) hanksterr: encore

(01:17 PM) google_2: at how this pattern occurs frequently

(01:17 PM) google_2: google_ARC_for_reversal_entries.jpg

(01:17 PM) google_2: and this was just last week

(01:18 PM) google_2: if you've noticed

(01:18 PM) gravestonedoggie: ver nice

(01:18 PM) gravestonedoggie: very

(01:18 PM) google_2: I've labelled sets of arcs as "inverse"

(01:18 PM) google_2: thos are the best

(01:18 PM) google_2: arc going opposite each other

(01:18 PM) amer_68: second arc at a large fib

(01:19 PM) hanksterr: possible railroad coming

(01:19 PM) fr10: do you trade stocks in this room If may I ask google

(01:19 PM) amer_68: Look for approx equal legs?

(01:19 PM) google_2: those inverse ones are very reliable

(01:19 PM) google_2: no

(01:19 PM) fr10: ok

(01:19 PM) fr10: thx

(01:19 PM) gravestonedoggie: in the first spot you label 'inverse arcs' which 2 do you mean are inverse?

(01:20 PM) google_2: sure, I like when leg 1 = leg 2

(01:20 PM) google_2: but fibs here do the trick

(01:20 PM) google_2: because 127 or 162 can be shorter

(01:20 PM) google_2: depending on corrective wave

(01:20 PM) google_2: gsd

(01:20 PM) google_2: take a look at let and arc on the left

(01:21 PM) gravestonedoggie: ok

(01:21 PM) google_2: you see how the leg is bending downwards?

(01:21 PM) google_2: while arc is arching upwards?

(01:21 PM) gravestonedoggie: yes

(01:21 PM) google_2: same thing with leg and arc on right of chart

(01:22 PM) google_2: 2 arcs make up a pattern

(01:22 PM) google_2: well folks that was the "railroad' and "arc"

(01:22 PM) gravestonedoggie: thank you

(01:22 PM) blueem: thx

(01:22 PM) elly_34: very nice

(01:22 PM) raz_62: thanks you are a very good instructer

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(01:22 PM) Tom_B: really neat, thnx

(01:23 PM) TurnSig: Tx Google.

(01:23 PM) jimmer49: Very nicely done Google - thank you

(01:23 PM) amer_68: Mucho gracias

(01:23 PM) laniermasters: Great job, thanks.

(01:23 PM) Buffy_04364: great job googel

(01:23 PM) pete77_1: Links were a very big hlp

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(01:23 PM) plevin: wonderfull Google

(01:23 PM) Buffy_04364: nice way to present it with the evolving charts

(01:23 PM) dave_b_quik: Thanks, google, completely new turf for me

(01:23 PM) Hollie_: enjoyed googs

(01:23 PM) Rose0001: Beautiful charts too, Google.

(01:23 PM) LB20: extremely well done!!!! THX, google!

(01:24 PM) ann_87: thanks google was a GREAT GREAT class!!!

(01:24 PM) google_2: thank you all for your time and sharing

(01:24 PM) QSuzy: Great teaching, google!!

(01:24 PM) 1goods: thanks..google

(01:24 PM) gravestonedoggie: thank YOU

(01:25 PM) brandon_131: Google, also thanks for transcribing Jimmer's session the other day. Great help.

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